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Suffrage v. “liberation”

Wow. This whole post, starting as a reflection on the life of Marylin Monroe, is worth reading (and I love the graphic depiction of the ancient law against sexual harrassment. Here’s one part of it:

What the suffragettes wanted was the vote, ownership of property, the normalization of women in business and trade. In other words, an ability for a woman to move about in the free market without an escort or a protector: equality.

What the Sexual Liberation movement wanted was removal of the social barriers, the protective wall, around potential sex objects, most importantly the wall called marriage, which forbad sexual coupling for light or transient reasons, but allowed it only for couples where the man had made a public and irrevocable vow and commitment to love, honor and cherish, forsaking all others, his beloved–in other words, to match his deeds to his words, and to see through any logical and natural results of the sexual reproductive act, including if the reproduction act led to (as it is want to do) reproduction.

In economic metaphor, what the Sexual Liberation movement wanted was a lowering of the transaction costs, and a way for the man to escape the burdens and consequences of reproduction. If the women fell in love with him, but he was bored with her, or if the woman had a child he did not care if lived or died, the society’s new rules would allow him to walk away without public shame, and therefore would allow him to maneuver the woman into being his demimondaine without public disapproval.

The whole point of the Sexual Revolution was to permit men to seduce, exploit and abandon women without the woman having any support or recourse. It was a trick, like telling the princess you mean to kidnap that her bodyguards are her jailors, to get her to order them away.

I can’t endorse Wright’s visions, but I liked this.

It shouldn’t be a marathon

This is so sad:

The sophomores are tired and disgruntled. They’re grinding through Question 40, which is meant to test their knowledge of the difference between a mean and a median. To calculate the mean, add the salary numbers together and divide by the number of people, Guinn explains patiently. As she writes the long equation down on a white board, some students punch it into their calculators. Others zone out. And Sydne Kersey starts to get frustrated.

“There’s no easier way to do this?” Sydne, 15, asks.

Okay, how about we simply dismiss a lot of the idiotic wastes of time that are mandated by educators and let them do this at ten a.m.? And take the calculator budget and use it to give them high-protein snacks.

The amount of school time spent telling kids things they don’t need to know, or showing them movies, or doing useless group projects is vast. Let people kick back in the twilight hours.

Hat tip: Chris.

How old do I look?

Me: Calvin, what’s wrong with your pants? I can see your legs over your socks! Are those Nevin’s?

Calvin: No, Dad! [Lifts up off the car seat and tugs pants downwards] It’s just the way I’m sitting.

Me: I don’t know Calvin. There is still a lot of sock showing. I think you are growing way too fast. Why don’t you stop for awhile?

Calvin: Dad! You know I’m not going to grow shorter until I reach your age.

Me: Oh, thanks.

Calvin: You know it’s true.

Another blog post dedicated to obscuring the testimony of Jesus

Piper writes:

Then, there is Wright’s affirmation of Sanders’ claim that the religion of the Pharisees was not the “religion of legalistic works-righteousness,” and that the “The Jew [of Jesus’ day] keeps the law out of gratitude, as the proper response to grace.” The only explanation I can find for such amazing statements is that the testimony of Jesus is denied or obscured. It is my impression that evangelicals enamored by the NPP have not reckoned seriously enough with the fact that the origination of the NPP seems to have taken place in the halls of such denial or obscuring.

Dr. Piper makes amazing accusations without any basis whatsoever. Where does Dr. Piper himself show us “the testimony of Jesus” which sates that Judaism was a “religion of legalistic works-righteousness”? Nowhere.

Piper takes three things and simply acts as if they back his position.

  1. The Pharisees were condemned in the strongest terms as unaware of the true god. As I’ve pointed out, What Piper says here is correct. But there are other forms of damnable unbelief than “legalistic works righteousness.”
  2. The Pharisees were guilty of pride, self-exaltation, and arrogance. Because we all know that people who subscribe to a religion of sola gratia are never guilty of this.
  3. The Pharisees were satisfied with the era of the Law and didn’t believe it needed to be ended. (Were the Israelites who wanted to stay in Egypt guilty of “legalistic works righteousness”?)

Now, a soteriology of legalistic works righteousness could produce these three things, but Piper has not offered any argument that this is the case. He simply assumes it and accuses anyone who wants actual proof of denying or obscuring the plain teachings of Jesus.

But what sort of preacher would preach against people committed to “legalistic works righteousness” in this way?

He said therefore to the crowds that came out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bear fruits in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

And the crowds asked him, “What then shall we do?” And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.” Tax collectors also came to be baptized and said to him, “Teacher, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Collect no more than you are authorized to do.” Soldiers also asked him, “And we, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not extort money from anyone by threats or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.”

Notice how closely this resembles James’ assertion that faith without works is dead. If James’ reference to believing God is one is a reference to the shema then they are virtually identical statements.

The problem with Israel is that many were arrogant presumptionists–they presumed on the grace of God. As Heinrich Bullinger wrote many years ago in explaining infant baptism:

we consider children of parents to be children and indeed heirs even though they, in their early years, do not know that they are either children or heirs of their parents. They are, however, disowned if, after they have reached the age of reason, they neglect the commands of their parents. In that case, the parent no longer calls them children and heirs but worthless profligates. They are mistaken who boast about their prerogatives as sons of the family by virtue of birth. For he who violates the laws of piety toward parents is no different from a slave; indeed, he is lower than a slave, because even by the law of nature itself he owes more to his parents. Truly this debate about the seed of Abraham has been settled for us by the prophets and the apostles, specifically that not everyone who is born of Abraham is the seed of Abraham, but only he who is a son of the promise, that is, who is falthful, whether Jew or Gentile. For the Jews have already neglected the basic conditions of the covenant, while at the same time they glorified themselves as the people of God, relying on circumcision and the fact that they were born from the parent Abraham. Indeed, this error is denied and attacked not only by Christ along with the apostles but also by the entire body of the prophets (The One and Eternal Testament or Covenant with God, in Fountainhead of Federalism: Heinrich Bullinger and the Covenantal Tradition, Charles S. McCoy and J. Wayne Baker [Louisville, KY: W/JKP, 1991], 106).

Likewise, Calvin, saw in Judaistic presumption a precedent for the claims of Roman Catholicism:

In the present day, therefore, the presence of the Romanists is just the same as that which appears to have been formerly used by the Jews, when the Prophets of the Lord charged them with blindness, impiety, and idolatry. For as the Jews proudly vaunted of their temple, ceremonies, and priesthood, by which, with strong reason, as they supposed, they measured the Church, so, instead of the Church, we are presented by the Romanists with certain external masks, which often are far from being connected with the Church, and without which the Church can perfectly exist. Wherefore, we need no other argument to refute them than that with which Jeremiah opposed the foolish confidence of the JewsÛnamely, ÏTrust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord are theseÓ (Jer. 7:4). The Lord recognises nothing as his own, save when his word is heard and religiously observed. Thus, though the glory of God sat in the sanctuary between the cherubim (Ezek. 10:4), and he had promised that he would there have his stated abode, still when the priests corrupted his worship by depraved superstitions, he transferred it elsewhere, and left the place without any sanctity. If that temple which seemed consecrated for the perpetual habitation of God, could be abandoned by God and become profane, the Romanists have no ground to pretend that God is so bound to persons or places, and fixed to external observances, that he must remain with those who have only the name and semblance of a Church. This is the question which Paul discusses in the Epistle to the Romans, from the ninth to the twelfth chapter. Weak consciences were greatly disturbed, when those who seemed to be the people of God not only rejected, but even persecuted the doctrine of the Gospel. Therefore, after expounding doctrine, he removes this difficulty, denying that those Jews, the enemies of the truth, were the Church, though they wanted nothing which might otherwise have been desired to the external form of the Church. The ground of his denial is, that they did not embrace Christ. In the Epistle to the Galatians, when comparing Ishmael with Isaac, he says still more expressly, that many hold a place in the Church to whom the inheritance does not belong, because they were not the offspring of a free parent. From this he proceeds to draw a contrast between two Jerusalems, because as the Law was given on Mount Sinai, but the Gospel proceeded from Jerusalem, so many who were born and brought up in servitude confidently boast that they are the sons of God and of the Church; nay, while they are themselves degenerate, proudly despise the genuine sons of God. Let us also, in like manner, when we hear that it was once declared from heaven, ÏCast out the bondmaid and her son,Ó trust to this inviolable decree, and boldly despise their unmeaning boasts. For if they plume themselves on external profession, Ishmael also was circumcised: if they found on antiquity, he was the first-born: and yet we see that he was rejected. If the reason is asked, Paul assigns it (Rom. 9:6), that those only are accounted sons who are born of the pure and legitimate seed of doctrine. On this ground God declares that he was not astricted to impious priests, though he had made a covenant with their father Levi, to be their angel, or interpreter (Mal. 2:4); nay, he retorts the false boast by which they were wont to rise against the Prophets–namely, that the dignity of the priesthood was to be held in singular estimation. This he himself willingly admits: and he disputes with them, on the ground that he is ready to fulfil the covenant, while they, by not fulfilling it on their part, deserve to be rejected. Here, then, is the value of succession when not conjoined with imitation and corresponding conduct: posterity, as soon as they are convicted of having revolted from their origin, are deprived of all honour; unless, indeed, we are prepared to say, that because Caiaphas succeeded many pious priests (nay, the series from Aaron to him was continuous), that accursed assembly deserved the name of Church. Even in earthly governments, no one would bear to see the tyranny of Caligula, Nero, Heliogabalus, and the like, described as the true condition of a republic, because they succeeded such men as Brutus, Scipio, and Camillus. That in the government of the Church especially, nothing is more absurd than to disregard doctrine, and place succession in persons. Nor, indeed, was anything farther from the intention of the holy teachers, whom they falsely obtrude upon us, than to maintain distinctly that churches exist, as by hereditary right, wherever bishops have been uniformly succeeded by bishops. But while it was without controversy that no change had been made in doctrine from the beginning down to their day, they assumed it to be a sufficient refutation of all their errors, that they were opposed to the doctrine maintained constantly, and with unanimous consent, even by the apostles themselves. They have, therefore, no longer any ground for proceeding to make a gloss of the name of the Church, which we regard with due reverence; but when we come to definition, not only (to use the common expression) does the water adhere to them, but they stick in their own mire, because they substitute a vile prostitute for the sacred spouse of Christ. That the substitution may not deceive us, let us, among other admonitions, attend to the following from Augustine. Speaking of the Church, he says, ÏShe herself is sometimes obscured, and, as it were, beclouded by a multitude of scandals; sometimes, in a time of tranquillity, she appears quiet and free; sometimes she is covered and tossed by the billows of tribulation and trial (August. ad Vincent. Epist. 48). As instances, he mentions that the strongest pillars of the Church often bravely endured exile for the faith, or lay hid throughout the world.

I’m not denying that the Reformers saw in Judaism also precedent for Roman Catholic merit soteriology. But whether or not they were right to do so needs to be settled by an actual appeal to Scripture. As it stands, there are other alternative explanations on the table.

And they ought not simply be dismissed with an allegation that everyone who disagrees with Piper denies or obscures clear statements from Jesus that Piper himself fails to produce.

Wright in the news, among the Reformed Chicks, and again v. Piper

This was supposed to be a break from this, but it didn’t quite work out…

Through BHT I found Reformed Chicks Blabbing’s link to excellent story about N. T. Wright. Also, there was a link to this nice pithy blurb about the Bishop. That was all I was going to say. This was going to be a break from polemics. But then I notice what she said in the middle of her post:

Christ became the true Israel and fulfilled what they were supposed to be. My OT professor shared with us Wright’s interpretation of Romans 2 in light of the promises made to Israel in the new covenant and it really helped me to understand it better (more on that after my final).

So here is a woman at a Reformed seminary learning that Wright’s view is really helpful with understanding Romans 2. Interesting.

Piper baffling on Romans 2

Piper writes:

Wright’s statements are baffling in several ways. One way is that the Jews of Romans 2:17-24 do indeed claim to be successful moralists. They teach morality, but do not teach themselves (v. 21). They preach against stealing, but steal (v. 21). They oppose adultery, but commit adultery (v. 22). They denounce idolatry, but commit idolatry (v. 22). They boast in the law, but dishonor the law (v. 23). And in all this, they cause the Gentiles to blaspheme God (v. 24). How Wright can use this paragraph to distinguish moral boasting from racial boasting escapes me (as does the distinction itself).

So what is Piper telling us? Do people get to make a living in unrepentant robbery while preaching against robbery and remain members in good standing at Bethlehem Baptist Church? Does Piper regard double-living adulterers who claim to be Christians to be heirs of the Kingdom?

Nothing in Romans 2 mandates that anyone think the Jews were trying to be good enough to win God’s favor. Quite the contrary, Paul condemns them as a nation (the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of this behavior: it is done openly and is a matter of public knowledge) because they are living like unregenerate hypocrites. They think merely possessing the Faith is enough rather than actually living it. OK, Paul said they think possessing the law is sufficient, but it all sounds remarkably like James.

Piper claims to be “baffled” by Wright. Having won my respect as a scholar in the past, I confess I am having a failure of the imagination now in trying to picture Piper as baffled by this. Whatever. I think I have much more right to be baffled by this response than he does in regard to Wright.

To be continued (I’m starting a Piper v. Wright category).

Lost blog posts on Piper & Wright

While thinking about what to say about this, I realized I have somehow did not import August 2006. I don’t know if I will be able to salvage it. This means that my first comments on Piper v. Wright aren’t here, unless I post them now.

Here we go:

Piper v. Wright: Some things that are true

August 8th, 2006

I will have more to say about this at some point. Though the sermon itself says nothing of the kind, word in the blogosphere claims this is the beginning to some sort of Wright v. Piper smackdown.

For now I’ll just point out some things that are true and some things that are false.

It is true that Wright’s commentary on Romans is both excellent and readable.

It is false that the following quotation appears anywhere in Scripture: “Being ignorant of the righteousness that comes from God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness” (Rom. 10:3).

It is true that Paul speaks of a righteousness from God (”…and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through the faithfulness of Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith…” Philippians 3.9)

It is false that this expression “righteousness from God” (εκ θεου δικαιοσυνην) appears anywhere in Romans.

It is true that Romans says a lot about “the righteousness of God” (δικαιοσυνη θεου).

No matter how important is the righteousness from God for the salvation of sinners, it is false that God is going to say “well done” to anyone for inserting it into Romans.

It is true that the NASB remains superior to the ESV in many significant ways.

It is false that when some “trust in themselves that they are righteous and treat others with contempt” that this necessarily means they hold to a theology that their own (God given) inherent righteous is the basis of their standing before God (The statement could simply mean that they were sure they were righteous even when Jesus told them otherwise), or that we are supposed to regard the sin of holding others in contempt as merely a fruit of merit legalism and not a damning sin in its own right.

It is true that God hates the arrogant and will cut off the arrogant who hold their gracious election and salvation as a license to be arrogant toward others (Romans 11.13-24).

It is false that Wright (in the excellent commentary mentioned above) is able to do justice to the warning in Romans 11.

It is true that Wright holds to a rather simplistic understanding of individual “once saved, always saved” that prevents him from doing justice to these passages. A more consistently covenantal hermeneutic would help him.

It is false that the Bible says anywhere that it is righteous to fast twice a week or to tithe everything you acquire (One “gets” by purchasing; the Pharisee is boasting in more than a tithe of the increase).

It is true that Jesus might actually be condemning not only the Pharisees attitude toward the tax-gatherer, but the precise behavior he describes in his prayer.

It is false that the previous statements of truth and falsit represent any threat or lack of loyalty to the Reformation doctrine that sinners are justified by God only by grace alone and through faith alone and in Christ alone.

It is true my beliefs regarding the justification of sinners before God are summarized here.

Fake interview w/Wright & Piper

August 8th, 2006

This is utterly brilliant.

Theologically inexplicable slashing

August 9th, 2006

A. B. Caneday is the co-author of The Race Set Before Us: A Biblical Theology of Perseverance& Assurance with Thomas R. Schreiner. I assume that most of my Evangelical readers know and have read this book. If not, leave me a comment and I will see if I can review it (though probably not until the end of the month). The book is all about the role of future expectation and warnings and perseverance in the Christian life, so it has everything to do with the current debates regarding Wright and what is to occur on the Last Day.Caneday has begun blogging about Piper and Wright. He makes several good points. He criticizes Wright for saying final vindication is “on the basis of” works, but points out that Simon Gathercole’s “on the basis of” faith is just as sloppy. Yet he thinks neither is heretical. I realize what the kata preposition means in Greek, but it is not self-evident to me that “on the basis of” could not be used in a synonymous way. Maybe I’m wrong but I think Caneday might be presuming on Reformed terminological customs rather than finding anything objectively sloppy in either Wright or Gathercole. I’ll think about it. Right or wrong, Caneday’s attitude is exemplary.Caneday also comments on Piper’s sermon. Last night I wrote,

It is false that when some “trust in themselves that they are righteous and treat others with contempt” that this necessarily means they hold to a theology that their own (God given) inherent righteous is the basis of their standing before God (The statement could simply mean that they were sure they were righteous even when Jesus told them otherwise), or that we are supposed to regard the sin of holding others in contempt as merely a fruit of merit legalism and not a damning sin in its own right.

Here is what Caneday wrote:

It is doubtful that Luke 18:9 bears the meaning that John Piper attempts to extract from it in the above quote. Luke 18:9 says that Jesus “told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt.” The expression, “trusted in themselves that they were righteous,” does not readily yield the meaning that Piper thinks that he has found in the words. The text does not say that “they trusted in the righteousness that God had given them as the basis of their justification.” The passage does not even use the familiar word pisteuō to depict their “trust.” Rather, the text reads tous pepoithotas eph’ heautois hoti eisin dikaioi, translated: “to those who were confident in themselves that they were righteous.” Accordingly, Luke does not tell us that the fault of the Pharisees to whom Jesus addresses the parable is that they put their faith in a righteousness that God had worked in them. Rather, Luke tells us that their fault is two-fold: (1) their confidence is misplaced; their confidence is in themselves; and (2) they hold others in contempt. Confident of themselves, they judge themselves righteous while behaving unrighteously by condemning others. They submit to their own judgment of themselves and not to God’s judgment, as the tax collector does.

Finally, despite Piper’s reputation as being fair and all that Caneday writes:

What is rather odd is that John Piper argues that the Pharisees to whom Jesus spoke the parable were not legalists. He paints a rather positive portrait of them. He insists that Luke’s statement in 18:9 is not descriptive of a person who looks to one’s own deeds as meritorious. In other words, Piper’s descriptions of the Pharisees approaches N. T. Wright’s own descriptions of the Pharisees and of first-century Jewish views of what is entailed in righteousness. Yet, Piper exploits this almost agreement to slash at N. T. Wright as though Wright himself were one of the Pharisees to whom Jesus speaks the parable of 18:9-14.

This goes to a recurring conviction I have about this debate ripping apart the Reformed ghetto: Real theological difference does not explain the energetic slashing that is going on.

For those interested, Caneday has written a second and third installment on the issue.

PS. By the way, I doubt anyone will believe me, but Piper has long been one of my heroes. I have promoted him among my friends and given his books as gifts. I still think he has great gifts and I am disappointed him that he has started to misuse them . But I had no partiality against him. I’ll elaborate more later if I remember.

Piper Wright Augustine

August 9th, 2006

By the way, if it matters to anyone, while this sermon does not apply to or describe N. T. Wright it almost certainly applies to Aurelius Augustine.Does this bother anyone?

Caneday v. and pro both Piper and Wright

August 10th, 2006

some measure of untidiness that crept into both Gathercole’s and Piper’s formulations of the doctrine of justification. Precisely because both men make it clear in other portions of their writings, preaching, or teaching that Christ is the sole basis or ground of our justification, we would be profoundly wrong to denounce them as heretics or as dangerous men who jeopardize the flock of God. They do not. They are mere mortals, as we all are. They are prone to make mistakes, as we all are. Is this not precisely why we do not implicitly follow men but test all things that our teachers say, with a view to approval (cf. 1 John 4:1-6)? I believe that we need to say the same thing about N. T. Wright. He, too, is a mere mortal. He, too, is prone to make mistakes just as I have done and am quite sure will do again and again. Because of this, it seems to me that I need to be as generous toward N. T. Wright as I am toward Simon Gathercole and to John Piper. All three are ministers of the Word of God. As with Gathercole and with Piper, Wright also believes that Christ is the sole ground for a right standing before God, though, in my estimation, he makes some other statements that seem to counter his plain and unequivocal affirmation that Christ Jesus alone is the basis of being set right with God. [Read the whole post]I still think Canaday may be being going overboard. Piper might simply be pointing out that one is justified by faith throughout one’s life and the initial faith entails that ongoing imputation of Christ’s righteousness received in that way. I’m not sure about the standards of “sloppiness” being invoked here.But, whatever one thinks of that, we have here a clear demonstration of how one ought to treat one’s differences with a Christian brother. Caneday is an example to us all.And our presbyteries.

Sic et Non

The title is actually an inside joke regarding micro-reformed polemics in Texas in the nineties, and is only indirectly related to medieval textbook theology.

I’m not ready to comment on this yet, but Doug has asked a question so I should say something.

So, here is everything in Dr. Piper’s column that I think is excellent if abstracted from the other stuff:

Listening to an interview by Mark Dever with Thabiti Anyabwile, I heard Mark use an illustration that I found tremendously helpful. It relates to the question whether Muslims and Christians worship the same God under different names.

He said that we should picture two old classmates from college discussing a common friend from thirty years ago. They begin to wonder if they are talking about the same person. One of them is convinced they are, and the other keeps thinking this is not quite the way he remembers the friend. Finally, they decide to dig out an old yearbook and settle the issue. They open the book, and as soon as they see the picture of their classmate, one says, “No, that’s not who I am talking about.” So it was not the same person after all.

Mark said that Jesus, as he is revealed in the Bible, is the picture in the yearbook. When a Muslim and a Christian, who have been discussing whether they are worshiping the same God, look at God in the yearbook, it settles the matter: “No,” says the Muslim, “that’s not who I am talking about.”

But that is who the Christian is talking about. John 1:18 says, “No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.” Jesus makes known the invisible God for us to see. In John 14:8, Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” To this Jesus responded, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’” And Paul said in 2 Corinthians 4:6, “God, who said, ‘Let light shine out of darkness,’ has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”

In other words, Jesus is the yearbook picture that settles the issue of who is worshiping the true God and who is not. If a worshiper of God does not see in Jesus Christ the person of his God, he does not worship God. This is the resounding testimony of Jesus and the apostles as we see in the following texts.

  • Mark 9:37, “Whoever receives me, receives not me but him who sent me.” (See also Matthew 10: 40; Luke 9:48; John 13:20.)
  • John 5:23, “Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.”
  • 1 John 2:23, “No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.”
  • Luke 12:9, “The one who denies me before men will be denied before the angels of God.”
  • John 15:23, “Whoever hates me hates my Father also.”
  • 2 John 1:9, “Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.”

Now, if we take this question back two thousand years and turn a Muslim-Christian question into a Pharisee-Jesus-follower question, the same thing emerges. Were the Pharisees worshiping the same God that the followers of Jesus were worshiping? I don’t mean to imply that every Pharisee was the same. For example, Nicodemus (John 3:1ff.) did not seem to be of the same spirit with most (though even he found the new birth incomprehensible at first). In asking this question, I am simply referring to the group of Pharisees in general as Jesus saw them. Did these Pharisees worship the same God as the followers of Jesus?

This question is even more striking than the Muslim-Christian question, because Pharisees and followers of Jesus had the same Holy Book, the Tanach—the Old Testament. That means that they used the same name for God and told the same stories about God and followed the same rituals in relating to God. Why would the question even come up about whether the Pharisees and the followers of Jesus worshiped the same God?

Because Jesus brought it up.

Thus far, this is a message I would be proud to preach word for word. My only quibbles would be that I haven’t yet listened to the interview by Mark Dever and thus can’t express an opinion about it–though what Dr. Piper expresses from it is something, again, with which I emphatically agree. Also, I don’t think Nicodemus’ shortcoming–though real–can be summed up as a misunderstanding or ignorance of a point on the ordo salutis. (Portraying Jesus as a roving systematic theologian trying to teach the proper ordo strikes me as about as believable as the liberal/mainline apostate portrayal of Jesus as a great moral teacher.)

But I’m not done quoting everything great and accurate in Dr. Piper’s presentation. I would gladly proclaim every word of the following without any quibbles at all:

When Jesus addressed the Jewish leaders of his day (Pharisees, lawyers, elders, Sadducees, chief priests), his resounding conclusion was they do not even know God. And, not knowing God, their lived-out religion (the kind Jesus is concerned with) is not “out of gratitude,” nor is it a “proper response to grace.”

When Jesus asked the Jewish leaders, “If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me?” his answer was, “Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God” (John 8:47). This is the claim of Jesus to be the yearbook picture of God. “I am from God and I am speaking the words of God. You are not seeing or hearing God, therefore you are not of God.”

That is, they do not have God as their Father, but rather the devil. Jesus said, “If God were your Father, you would love me . . . . You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires” (John 8:42-44).

And here’s more:

  • They accused Jesus of being demonic (Matthew 12:24).
  • They do not know how to understand the law (Matthew 12:2-7).
  • They sought to destroy Jesus (Matthew 12:14).
  • They are “an evil and adulterous generation” (16:4).
  • They break the commandments with their traditions (Matthew 15:6).
  • They worship vainly and their heart is far from God (Matthew 15:8-9).
  • They are not planted by the Father (Matthew 15:12).
  • Their teaching is leaven to be avoided (Matthew 16:12).
  • They do not bear the fruit of the kingdom and will lose it (Matthew 21:43-45).
  • They are children of hell (Matthew 23:15, 33).
  • They neglect the weightier matters of the law (Matthew 23:23).
  • They are full of greed and self-indulgence (Matthew 23:25, 27).
  • Outwardly they appear righteous, but are lawless within (Matthew 23:28).
  • They were lovers of money (Luke 16:14).

The upshot of this is that we should always reach for the yearbook of the New Testament Gospels to see the picture of Jesus. He will make clear whether Muslims and Christians are worshiping the same God, and whether Pharisees and followers of Jesus are worshiping the same God.

So, this is all great. And frankly, leaving N. T. Wright aside, one could find ample evidence for this position in Sander’s own seminal book. Granted, Sanders goes in a different direction with his evidence, one that lines up with his own commitments. But that is one of the many tragedies found here. Instead of using Sander’s own scholarship to have a genuine apologetic argument, we get a load of nonsense.

What does Paul think is root cause of the apostasy of Israel?

From 05/05/2004 on a previous blog:

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but stand in awe. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree (Romans 11.17-24).

Paul says that the Gentiles now included in the Abrahamic Covenant can fall under the same judgment that the Jews fell under. Is there any way to interpret this passage so that it means, “Don’t you become merit legalists just like those Jews were all merit legalists”? No. What Paul says is that Gentiles must not become proud–arrogant toward another ethnic group, the Jews. Merit legalism is, of course, a form of pride. But that is simply not the direct object of this warning. I’m listening to John Piper preach on this passage and he quite clearly states that Paul is rejecting an attitude of ethnic superiority. So, since Paul is telling the Gentiles not to fall into the same sin as the Jews did, how can we say that Paul is dealing with merit legalism among the Jews throughout Romans? So on balance, Paul writes a letter which opposes the Gospel to something that the Jews are doing, arguing that God “is not the God of the Jews only,” but “of the Gentiles also.” He includes as a step in his argument that “God is one” and therefore could not be the exclusive property of Jews. He then ends a long argument warning believing Gentiles not to feel or act or think themselves superior the Jews on the basis of their election.