OK, we were warned about this. They said, “If you preach predestination, you’re just gonna end up dividng the church. If you preach predestination from the Bible, you’re gonna end up creating a group of people who are fanatical about about doctrine, who are divisive, and who will splinter the church off into various fragmented groups. And you will have a body of people who are cold, passionless, and only concerned about doctrine. And the proof is here…
Listen to the rest of this radio drama and ask yourself Do you think the people issuing such warnings would have any reason to reconsider their stance? Perhaps they should clarify that such people will be heated and passonate in particular cases. But that would only give them reason to issue more warnings.
I’m sure these men have pastoral gifts. I just don’t think this broadcast made much use of them. “…their so-called ministries…”? Unbelievable.
Obviously, I have my Reformed differences with Calvin’s Baptist heirs, but siccing Machen’s warrior children on them (or Dordt’s SWAT team, or whatever) is not going to lead anywhere productive.
More unbelievable. I now learn that Baptist churches are not even true churches. Everything I ever leaned about Reformed ecclesiology was in error, it seems.
Or not.
I think Baptists have a better case or being the true church than some schools have for being Reformed seminaries.
Is this really what we need at this hour, the de-churching of one another in the name of the True Faith?
Mark,
This really is amazing, listening to these guys trash those Baptists with their “so-called ministries.”
Drat those Baptists all to Heck! How dare they call themselves Reformed!
Quoting from the show: “The whole book [John Piper’s book “Desiring God”] is sort of an esoteric, inwardly focused, inwardly focused book on piety and the Christian life and really has nothing to do with the Reformed faith.”
Also “these ‘so-called churches’ “
Yet more irony: the full title was “Reformed Renaissance or Calvinistic Crybabies.” Listening to this broadcast, it really seems they got caught in the verbal net that they set out for others. Who are really acting like crybabies?